table width issues (auto vs. 100%) using daflekk Template

[Gast]

thx for the link!

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1. its better to use not width (and height) in <table>, best way is a special css-class like <table class="tableform1"> or inline-styles like <table style="width:100%;">

2. parent element is content, content has a width=100% (from element container) and max-width=980px

3. you use align="center" for the tables, this put all your tables in the center of content, also the smaler tables

4. in some of your tables you use <table width="100%"..., but in the editor.css you have a definition for table == width:auto
width:auto is the width, what the table content needs, it counts the max-width from the longest text-line, add all margins and paddings, text-indents etc and build a row, the summary of all rows is the width: auto
example: longest text line in table 1 is this: Nailing, Riveting, Stapling applications plus padding-left:0.9em - thats the width from one row * 3 (three rows a 33%) - thats your auto-width for table 1
the different between table 2 and table 3 is the width from the longest text line, thats way you have different auto widths
a simple solution can be a border:0 for the tables or special table styles (with css for every table)

5. you use list's in every table row, but your css-definition for ul in editor.css say: padding-left: 0.9em;
thats your indent for the smaler tables like the tables under Diesel/Petrol-powered Tools
if you use in this smal tables a definition like table align=left or style definitions with margin to bring the table to the left border in combination with table width:auto, you have now Place for more content on the right side of the table, so that the next text line starts there (and not under the table)

@ dbs

width: 100%!important

set all tables to the full content width - thats not the best solution for the smaler tables

i think, its better to use not a standard width in the general table css (editor.css) - it works for all tables
delete this line and use separat css-definition for every table

[dbs]

Hi, looks for me so:
- in editor.css is a definition for tables (line 96 , width: auto)
- in style.css is no definition for tables
- in your content are tables with own styles ala <table width="100%"

What is your goal?

Try !important like

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width: auto!important;
or
width: 100%!important

[seanie_morris]

Hi folks,

Thanks for the replies.

I can't see at the moment what the parent elements are that might untidy my tables like this.

Here is a link to the (testing) live view:
www.mitchellsindustrial.ie/wb

And as to a directory to a copy of all of the template files for daflekk that I am using, I can't, due to permissions! So, the two CSS files are:

style.css

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html {height:100%;}

body {
margin: 0; padding: 0;
height:100%;
color:#333;
background: #eee url(img/bg.jpg) repeat fixed;
}

.container {
max-width: 980px;
    width: 100%;
    margin: 30px auto;
background: transparent  url(img/bg75.png);
z-index:300;
position:relative;
box-shadow: 0 0 60px #666;
border-radius: 30px;
}

.heading {height: 60px; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 22px; color: cfe1e9; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 2px; text-transform: uppercase; padding-top: 0px; line-height: 60px; padding-left: 40px;}

.header, .footer { width: 100%; height:160px;  position:relative;  border-radius:30px; }
.header  {float:left; width: 100%;  margin: 0 0 0 0; border-radius: 30px 30px 0 0 ; background: #fff url(slides/slide2.jpg) no-repeat center top;}
.footer { height:280px; clear:both; border-radius: 0 0 30px 30px; background: #fff url(img/footer.jpg) no-repeat center bottom;}

.logopic {display: none; max-width:60%;}

.topmenubar { clear: both; background:#cdc2b6; margin-bottom:30px;}

.content {color: 12px; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; padding-left: 40px; padding-right: 40px; padding-bottom: 40px;}

.contentbox {width: 100%; float:left; }
.contentbox .inner {min-height:330px; margin: 15px 1% 20px 4%;}
.contentbox .inner p img {width: 100%;}

.contentboxwide {width: 100% ! important;  }

.footer .inner { position:absolute; top:10px; left: 0%; width:100%; font-size:12px; font-family:Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; text-align:center; line-height:130%;  color: #000 ! important}
.footer .inner span { font-size:0.7em;}

#flecken {width:100%; height:100%; display:block; position:fixed; top:0; left:0; z-index:1;}
.fleck { position:absolute; z-index:10;}

/***********************************
menu
************************************/

a#mobilemenu {
    display:  none;   
}
a#mobilemenu span {display:block; padding: 10px 15px ; font-weight: bold;}

.search_box {float:right;  width:130px; text-align:right; margin-top:8px;}
.search_box .searchstring {
width:80px;
font-size:12px;
padding:2px;
}

.search_box .submitbutton {
vertical-align: top; margin:0 0 0 0;  background: none; border: none;
}

#showlogin {display:block; float:right; position:relative;  width:30px; text-align:right; margin:6px 6px 0 0; }
#login-box {position:absolute; width:200px; left:-190px; top:25px; padding:10px; font-size:11px; background:transparent url(img/bg75.png);}
#login-box .inputfield {width:80px; border: 1px solid #c9e8f9; padding:1px;}


/* Link Formatting */
ul.nav, ul.extramenu {
list-style-type: none;
/* *zoom: 1; */
margin: 0; padding: 0;
position: relative;
}

ul.nav li {
float: left;
list-style-type: none;
list-style-image: none;
position: relative; 
font-weight: normal;
margin: 0; padding: 0;
border-right: 3px solid #fff;
}

.nav li a {
display: block;
text-decoration: none;
font-weight: normal;
line-height:140%;
font-size:14px;
/*text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px #000;*/
padding: 10px 10px;
    color:#fff;
}


/* Hover Formatting */
.nav  li a:hover, .nav li a:focus, .nav li a:active, .nav li a.active, .nav a.menu-current, .nav a.menu-parent {
background-color: #6bb622;  color: #fff;
}


/* 2 level */
.nav li ul {
    display: none;
    width: 15em;
    margin: 0; padding:0;
    position: absolute;
    box-shadow: 0 10px 40px #666;
}

.nav li ul li {
width: 15em;
text-align: left;
font-weight: normal;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border-top: 1px solid #cdc2b6;
border-right: none;
background-color:#9e8d7b;
}

.nav li ul li a {

    color: #fff;
    font-weight: normal;
    padding: 6px 10px;
}


/* 2 level hover */
.nav li ul a:hover,  .nav li ul a.menu-current { background-color: 6bb622;  color: #000;}


/* Show and hide */
.nav li:hover ul, .nav li a:focus ul {display: block; }
.nav li ul ul { display: none;}
.nav li:hover ul ul {display: none;}
.nav li:hover>ul, .nav  li li:hover>ul {display: block;  z-index: 1000;}


/* 3 Ebene  */
.nav li ul li ul {
margin: -20px 0 0 70%;
padding:0;
z-index: 9999; 
display: none;
width: 11em;
}

.nav li ul li ul li {width: 11em;}


/* Positioning hover */
.nav li {position: relative;}

.nav li:hover {
z-index: 10000;
white-space: normal;
}

/*Flexslider */
div.flex-viewport ol.flex-control-nav {
bottom: 10px ! important;
}


/*==================================================================================================*/

/*Overview List*/
.mod_topic_loop a.videoblock {
display: block;
float:left;
width: 200px;
max-width:35%;
height: 110px;
overflow: hidden;
margin: 0 10px 10px 0;
background:#000;
}

.mod_topic_loop a.videoblock img {
width: 100%;
opacity:0.8;
}

.mod_topic_loop a:hover.videoblock img {
width: 130% ! important;
height:auto;
margin-left: -15% ! important;
margin-top: -30px ! important;
opacity:1;
}

/*Topic Sidebar:*/
.mod_topic_prevnext div {clear:left; font-size:11px; margin-top:20px;}

.mod_topic_prevnext a.videoblock {
display: block;
float:left;
width: 100px;
max-width:50%;
height: 60px;
overflow: hidden;
margin: 0 5px 0 0;
background:#000;
}

.mod_topic_prevnext a.videoblock img {
width: 100%;
height:auto;
opacity:0.8;
}

.mod_topic_prevnext a:hover.videoblock img {
width: 130% ! important;
height:auto;
margin-left: -15% ! important;
margin-top: -5px ! important;
opacity:1;
}


/*frontteaserblock*/

.frontteaserblock {margin:30px 0; width:100%; overflow:hidden;}
.frontteaserblock div {width:103.3%;}
.frontteaserblock div a {float:left; display:block; width:31%; margin-right:2%; opacity:0.9; background:#fff;}
.frontteaserblock div a img {width:100%; }
.frontteaserblock div a .mt_title {display:block; margin:10px 5px 0 10px; height:40px; font-size:16px; lineheight:120%; font-weight:bold; }
.frontteaserblock div a .mt_desc {display:block; margin:0 5px 0 10px; height:90px }
.frontteaserblock div a:hover  {opacity:1;}

.mobiles_only {display: none;}
.desktops_only {}

.mod_topic_commentbox {
background: transparent;
}

/* ================================================================================================= */
/* Smaller Screens */
@media screen and (max-width: 768px) {

body { background-image: none; }

.mobiles_only {display: block;}
.desktops_only {display: none;}

.search_box {margin-top:-30px;}
#showlogin {display:none;}

/*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*/
.container { width: 100%; border-left: none; border-right: none;}

.mainbox {margin: 20px 0 20px 0;}
.contentbox {width: 100%;}
.rightbox {width: 100%; border-left: none;  border-right: none; }
#flecken {display:none ! important;  }

.footer { width: 100%; }
.contentbox .inner {margin: 10px;  }

a#mobilemenu {
display:  block; 
background: #9e8d7b;   
color: #fff;
width:100%;
clear: both;
font-size:16px;
}

ul#mobile, ul#mobile ul, ul#mobile ul ul {width:100% ! important; position: static ! important; margin: 0 0 0 0 ! important; display: none}

ul#mobile ul {}
ul#mobile li, ul#mobile li li, ul#mobile li li li {
width:100% ! important;
float: left;
border-right: none;
display: block;
border-bottom: 1px solid #fff;
background-color: #333;
}

ul#mobile li.menu-parent > ul, ul#mobile li.menu-current > ul {display: block}
ul#mobile {display: block}

ul#mobile a {padding: 10px 5px; color:#fff;}
ul#mobile a.menu-parent {  background-color: #4dc4ef;}
#mobile a.menu-parent { }

ul#mobile {display:none;}

.tp_picture  {max-width:40%;}
.tp_picture .tp_pic {max-width:100%;}

.frontteaserblock div {width:100%;}
.frontteaserblock div a {width:100%; clear:left; margin-bottom:30px;}
.frontteaserblock div .row1 {clear:left;}
.frontteaserblock div a img {width:48%; float:left; margin-right:4%;}
.frontteaserblock div a .mt_title {height:auto; margin-bottom:20px;}
.frontteaserblock div a .mt_desc {height:auto; }
}


/* ================================================================================================= */
/* Smaller Screens */
@media screen and (max-width: 400px) {

.frontteaserblock div a img {width:100%; float:none;}
.frontteaserblock div a .mt_title {clear:both; height:auto; margin:10px 5px 5px 10px;}
.frontteaserblock div a .mt_desc { margin:0 5px 30px 10px; }
}

editor.css

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@import url(http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Lato:400,900,400italic,900italic);

body {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-family: 'Lato', sans-serif;
font-size: 14px;
line-height:130%;
color:#333;
}


/* basics */
area, usemap {border:0;}
a img {border:0;}
a { text-decoration: none;}

/*colors*/
/*orange*/
h1, h2, h3, a { color: #62aa18; }
.nav li a:hover, .nav li a:focus, .nav li ul li a, .nav a.menu-current, ul.nav a.menu-parent { background-color: #f57700; color: #fff; }

p, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 { margin: 3px 0 10px 0; }

p {line-height:150%; }

h1, h2, h3 {line-height:120%; }
h4, h5, h6 { color: #9e8d7b; }
h1 { font-size:48px; line-height:80%; font-weight:400; text-shadow: 2px 6px 9px #999;}
h2 { font-size: 28px; text-shadow: 2px 6px 9px #aaa;}
h3 { font-size: 18px; text-shadow: 2px 4px 9px #ccc; }
h4 { font-size: 16px;}
h5 { font-size: 14px; }
h6 { font-size: 12px; }

a:hover {color: #000;}

.topmenubar a { font-size: 18px ! important; }

hr{
border:dotted #327893 1px; height:1px;
}

li {
padding-bottom: 4px;
}

ul {
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 10px;
margin-left: 0.9em;
padding-left: 0.9em;
list-style-image: url(img/li.gif);
list-style-type: square
}

ol {
margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 10px;
margin-left: 0.9em;
padding-left: 0.9em;
}

address {
line-height:120%;
margin: 10px 0 20px 0;
padding-left: 10px;
border-left: 6px solid #cdc2b6;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
}

blockquote {
padding: 10px;
margin: 0 0 0px 0;
}

pre, code {
padding: 5px 0 10px 6px;
margin: 3px 0 20px 0;
font-size:1em;
overflow:auto;
line-height:1.5em;
color:#eee;
}

table {
margin-top: 3px;
margin-bottom:5px;
width: auto;
font: 0.85em;
border: solid;
}

/*
table caption {font-size:1.1em; text-align:left; }
table th {font-size:0.9em; padding: 4px; text-align:left; vertical-align: top;  border-bottom: 1px solid #373737;}
table tbody td {font-size:0.9em; padding: 4px; vertical-align: top;  border-bottom: 1px solid #373737;}
table tbody tr:hover td {background-color:#444;}
tbody td p, tbody td h1, tbody td h2, tbody td h3, tbody td h4 {margin: 0; line-height:110%;}
*/
input , textarea, pre, code, blockquote, select {
border: 1px solid #9e8d7b;  background: transparent  url(img/bg50.png);  color: #000;
}


/*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/

/* Specials */
p img[align="right"], h3 img[align="right"] { float:right; margin: 4px 0 5px 10px;}
p img[align="left"], h3 img[align="left"] { float:left; margin: 4px 10px 5px 0;}


As of this moment I will not be editing the files, I have to work on images and content for the rest of the pages.

[Gast]

table width: 100% use the width from the parent element, but it is a fixed width (100% from the parent element)
example: parent box has a width: 800px && padding: 10px - the table width is 800px

table width: auto is the avaiable width for the table on this place, it counts possible values for margin and padding from the parent element
example: parent box has a width: 800px && padding: 10px, row for the picture has a width == 200px - possible table width is 580px,

see post from dbs: best solution is a link - we need the source code and the css
i think, you need a new html-code for this output, two div's in a box or something like this

whats the css for the parent element?

[dbs]

Hi, helpful is a link, nothing else.

[seanie_morris]

Hi,

I am using the daflekk layout teplate, to positive affects. However, I have a problem using tables. In one case, the full table widths occupy the full width of the content. This is due to:

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table {
margin-top: 3px;
margin-bottom:5px;
width: 100%;
font: 0.85em;
border: solid;
}

If I swap the line width: 100%; for width: auto; the problem then becomes that tables are indented unnecessarily and I don't know why. The 2 attached jpegs show what is going on. Can someone help?

If you want to see full CSS code, just ask.


Thank you,

Seanie.